The Lost Conversation -

My interviews with New York's Avant Garde Lifers

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In the summer of 2019, a rehearsal workshop destroyed my mental health.

So I decided I needed to talked to the most legendary NYC avant garde theater makers I could think of and ask them how.

How did you survive?

How did you pay rent?

How did you stay courageous?

How did you not quit?

How did you deal with "no?"

How did you stay pure?

How? How? How?


My long-form interview series originally started off as a recurring column in The Brooklyn Rail and will soon be published as a full book with The 53rd State Press.


Edited by Emily DeVoti

Artists include:

Adrienne Kennedy

 Kate Valk

 Richard Foreman

Ping Chong

Deborah Hay

Bill T Jones

Jennifer Tipton

Robert Wilson

Lee Breuer

Maude Mitchell

Anne Bogart

Mac Wellman

Lola Pashalinski

JoAnne Akalaitis

Muriel Miguel

Gloria Miguel

Eduardo Machado

Andre Gregory

Nicky Paraiso

& many more...


Each interview explores how they started, what kept them going, the evolutions they've seen, what it takes and what it took to make a life as an artist in New York City.

Thanks to the friends who connected, prepped & worked with me on this:

Kate Kremer, Emily DeVoti, Antje Oegel, The Brooklyn Rail, Clay Hapaz & Mike Farry @ The Wooster Group,

Ozzie Rodriguez @ LaMama Archvies, T. Ryder Smith, Juliana Francis Kelly,

Bob Cucuzza, David Skeist,

Frank Boudreaux, Paul DiPietro, Joseph Moran, Bronwen Sharp,

Eric Bernhard @ Sledgehammer Theater, Spiderwoman Theater, 

Alexandra Collier,

New York Live Arts, Kristrana Cowser, Jonathan Lomma, Meghan Finn, 

James Scruggs, Tina Mitchell,

Richard Termine,

New York Library for The Performing Arts, Morgan Library,

Kirk McCoy,  Jody Christopherson,

Reid Farrington